I Think I’ve Found My Candidate For 2008
Posted by: Scott at 8:34 pm in Elections, PoliticsSometimes it’s the little guys that surprise you.
Although Dennis Kucinich may be small in size, he appears to have the biggest set of balls on Capitol Hill. I’ve been noticing that he says what he believes without regards as to whether or not his answer will win him votes in his bid for President. Case in point- Listen to him address LGBT issues on last night’s Democratic Presidential Debate on Logo. He didn’t hem and haw around the issue like some of the other candidates. He just came right out and stated he believes in total equality for the LGBT community:
Furthermore, at the July 15, 2003 Human Rights Campaign forum, moderator Sam Donaldson asked Kucinich, "Congressman, you support same-sex marriage?" Kucinich responded, "Yes." That’s it. Just a plain, straight-forward, non-qualified "yes." No "I support civil unions but not gay marriage" or "it is something that I struggle with" or "I do not believe that federal recognition of same-sex marriage is practical because of strong political and religious resistance."
Kucinich is a leader in other progressive beliefs too. For example, in April he introduced House Resolution 333 that impeaches Vice President Dick Cheney on three charges. Most of his fellow Democrats seem unwilling or unable to touch the "impeach" issue on any of the Executive Branch- Bush, Cheney, or Gonzales. Kucinich has been involved with efforts to reinstate or draft a new Fairness Doctrine, requiring broadcasters to present controversial issues of public importance in an honest, equitable and balanced manner (e.g. opposing viewpoints) on the public-owned airwaves. While controversial, the Fairness Doctrine would go a long way in countering the single-sided view being presented by the consolidating ownership of America’s media companies. Think what might happen if Fox News really did start having to be "fair and balanced."
Here’s some of Kucinich’s stances on other issues1:
- Supports a woman’s right to choose (Abortion Rights);
- Supports gay marriage;
- Supports a repeal of "Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell" thereby allowing servicemen and women to serve openly;
- Supports embryonic stem cell research;
- Opposed to oil drilling in the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge;
- Supports a ban on assault weapons;
- Opposes the Patriot Act, Guantanamo, wiretapping, and torture;
- Supports an immediate withdrawal from Iraq;
- Supports minimum wage increase;
- Supports Internet neutrality;
- Supports universal healthcare.
You can see more on Dennis Kucinich’s positions here. (Thanks David for the link.)
In looking at what Kucinich supports and opposes, his views most closely match my own. To be honest, I was very disappointed by the current crop of Democratic Presidential candidates for 2008 until I began to research Kucinich. Originally I thought I might support Hillary Clinton, but she has said and done a lot of things that have pissed me off. Then I looked to Barack Obama. In closer scrutiny there were some things about him I didn’t feel comfortable with. Most recently I was interested in John Edwards, but his answer to the question of gay marriage really left a bad taste in my mouth.
Now I know a lot of people out there don’t think that Kucinich can win. I ask, why not? The popular thinking right now is that Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic front-runner. I however have serious doubts about her ability to win. She seems to be a very polarizing figure; you either like her or you don’t. If Obama is the candidate, the Republicans will make a huge issue about his limited experience. That, and the persisting traces of racism in our country will be a huge hindrance to him getting elected. Edwards seems to be a bit uncommitted to taking a strong stand on issues though I think he might stand a chance. But if Edwards can stand a chance, why not Kucinich?
True, Kucinich is a small nerdy-looking guy, but he is very tall in stature. The trick for him and his supporters will be to get the message out and educate people about what Kucinich represents. After eight years of heading in the wrong direction, I think America is ready for a unapologetically progressive (dare I say liberal?) candidate. That’s what Kucinich appears to be and why I’m choosing to support him. Besides if Kucinich is so unelectable, how did he get to Congress in the first place? If we think he can’t win, then he won’t. We need to support him openly and help spread the word.
I’m not the only one joining the Kucinich Revolution. The comic below is from the online strip "Town Called Dobson." The author of the strip has an excellent blog post about Kucinich and his chances for election. It’s a quick read, and I highly recommend you check it out.
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I am completely behind Kucinich. I have liked him for years, but he seems to be ignored by the media. Now, if we could just get him elected President.
Oh how I like Kucinich. Unfortunately, I just don’t think he’s electable. The public will not elect anyone whose name they can’t pronounce or who looks like a character from the Lord of the Rings. (Apparently they will elect someone who looks like a character from Planet of the Apes. Twice.)
Cases in point: Nader, Perot, Simon, Mondale…
What I really want to know is what are the Democrats thinking? We so desperately need to win this election, and the front runners are a black man and a woman… two minorities that have NEVER held the presidency before… ?
Jester-
Maybe we need to reengineer our thinking. Start thinking that Kucinich *can* be elected if we can get the word out to enough people. The Republicans would love to have us think he is not electable because he poses the greatest threat to them if he is.
As for Obama and H. Clinton, I appreciate the progressive strides they represent as a Africa-American and female candidate, but I just wish we had better choices.
Scott- Don’t get me wrong. I’d vote for him in a heartbeat. The media just isn’t very kind to him.
Maybe it’s just the fatigue of the informed, but right now I think I’d vote for a trained harp seal in an Eva Gabor wig just to make something happen that is different from the current administration.
Barack and Hillary are great choices (even if they aren’t as progressive or solid as Kucinich), but does THIS year have to be the year we cross our fingers and hope that America’s dissatisfaction with Bush is enough to overcome their other prejudices? Why not throw Barney Frank into the mix? Or maybe the senator who wanted to take the oath on the Koran (can’t think of his name atm)?
Note: I’m not saying that I hold these prejudices. I’m just not naive to think that they won’t play a large role in this next election.
You are both racist bastards who hide behind your keyboards
Nicole-
How so? Because Obama is not my first candidate of choice? Did I ever say I hated him? No… I like him for the most part. In fact if he becomes the candidate for the Democrats, I will campaign for him.
If you want to make such inflammatory remarks, at least explain yourself or you are the one hiding behind a keyboard.
Nicole - I don’t believe Scott or I have made any statements that could be construed as racist. Neither of us are hiding, you found Scott’s site, and if you look, you’ll see a link to my site as well. You didn’t provide a link.
Sorry, Scott… seems I can’t help but stir shit.
I could care less if he is your first candidate of choice. But when you justify not voting for him (to all of your readers), because America isn’t ready to get over its race issues, you must be responsible for those words. You are invoking fear into anyone who might have though about voting for him. Americans are very much victims of groupthink, and if you are going to blog in a public arena (the internet) - you should be more responsible. I would have never supported Joe Lieberman for President, and it had nothing to do with ‘Gee, I don’t think America is ready for a Jewish president’. If you don’t care for Obama’s policies, inexperience, etc. — Fine, then say so and present a credible argument. But the crap about America not being ready is tired, lame, overused and lazy. Also, the casual reader has no way of differentiating between if you are truly racist, and are playing off of people’s fears, or truly feel that way. In any event, it would serve everyone best to stick to the candidates’ platform and policies.
Nicole-
Wow. You are reading a lot into something I wrote.
I NEVER said that I would not vote for him, or that other people should not vote for him, because of the racial issue. I did say that America’s lingering racists attitudes will be a hindrance for him getting elected. That is completely different that what you are accusing me of.
I am not trying to play on people’s fears. I would LOVE to elect a minority (whether female, black, Jewish, or other). I would vote for such a candidate AS LONG AS I agreed with their stance on the issues.
Let’s face facts though. A minority candidate will face an uphill battle. I’m sorry, but that’s just the way it is. Do I think then that we shouldn’t nominate a minority for our Democratic candidate? NO! In fact, I think we should try very hard to support minority candidates.
I think you are seeing racism where none exists.
Nicole - In a country where issues of race, and for that matter, sexuality, are still causes of violence and discrimination and debates about Affirmative Action and Immigration, Same-Sex Marriage and other ethno-centric issues are still major hot buttons, to believe that America is “ready” to vote solely on the issues is naive and misguided. It is a very credible and real issue.
The fact that you are so quick to throw the word “racist” around without fully comprehending the intent of the statements made here just prove my point.
For the record, Barack does not support same sex marriage, his support of No Child Left Behind is somewhat questionable. He is not nearly as experienced as other candidates.
And like it or not, the fact that he is African American will play a major part in his elect-ability.
Personally, I’d support a black muslim polygamous lesbian in a wheelchair if she were willing to stand up for the same beliefs that I hold.
Ok, for the MOST part we may agree. However, your assertions that ‘A minority candidate will face an uphill battle. ‘ vs. ‘I think you are seeing racism where none exists.’ are at the very least, contradictory. Obviously, racism exists if you acknowledge the “uphill battle” minority candidates face. Perhaps you’re not racist, but less informed readers will/could take your words to mean that voting for Obama is a wasted vote because America is not ready yet. A lot of us take our words for granted. This theme is continuously drilled into our heads by the MSM. I tend to look for blogs for something a bit more authentic. Sorry to offend, I just would like to see the issues debated for the most part. Anyway, my last word for the night is if Hillary gets the nomination, Ron Paul gets my vote — unless a strong 3rd party candidate (Bloomberg/Hagel?) emerges.
Peace
Nicole-
So if we acknowledge the facts, i.e. racism still exists in America today and could be a problem for a minority candidate, then we ourselves are racists?
I see no logic in that, but I’ll agree to disagree.
Scott, I think that while Dennis Kucinich may not be electable (when did THAT become such an issue in campaigning anyway) I firmly believe that he’s on the right track. He is for the environment, supports ending out-sourcing of our labor force and might actually have the cojones to tell Hugo Chavez that we don’t need his stinking oil. But it’s still important to work towards having other candidates address those issues too, and work towards what the American people want, not what will get them in the Oval Office.
Where is Jed Bartlett when you need him?
I think the fact that gay rights issues are so much more on the table this cycle compared to last shows significant improvement with the Democrats. I would guess that most of the Dems (if they never needed to win another election in their life) would probably publicly support gay marriage. Unfortunately, they probably believe doing so would cost them too many votes as is. Yes, it’s incredibly frustrating, especially for people whose lives these laws actually impact. By not speaking out, these candidates aren’t showing leadership, but perhaps they’re showing political expediency. Unfair and pessimistic, yes. But that seems like the sad reality.
I probably won’t be supporting Kucinich, but I like that he’s in the race to help keep the rest honest.
Scott, the real problem with Hillary and Obama is that each will pull enough support to effectively cancel the other out. The consequence of this, of course, is that the Republican will sneak past both. If Hillary convinced Obama to run as the Vice President, this move would unite both camps. We would achieve the first woman elected President and put Obama in a position to run for the presidency behind Hillary’s administration. This would also give America a chance to “test” Obama as the nominee to follow Clinton.
I agree with you. Running on their own, neither Clinton nor Obama stand much of a chance for the exact reasons you so state. Life seen through rose-colored glasses would be cheery, but I’m not blind to the fact that Obama won’t win Georgia or Mississippi. I do not believe the conservative Mid-West will want to trust the defense of this country to a woman–no matter whom that woman might be!
I discredit Edwards because of his wife’s condition. I would be hesitant to vote for a man whose wife might join the ranks as a First Lady to die in office. I do not believe America wants to see a First Lady die in office. Edwards will not support same-sex marriage, and this will cause him to lose gay votes.
Thank you for speaking up for Kucinich. I think, now, I will join you in supporting him as our next President.
Kucinich will never get the nomination. Period. Why? He’s not a member of the “team”. He tells the truth. He’s too honest and humble. Remember our former governor Bruce Babbitt? Very similar. He told it like it was, and was shown the door when he ran. But, for what’s it worth, the next president will be a democrat. It makes no difference who runs on the Republican ticket, nor on the democratic. People are fed up with the lies, the ineptitude, the brash incompetence of the current leadership.
The fairness doctrine is unfair. Leftists want more voice on the air. Well, since most all print media and all three networks are so liberal, the right needs an outlet. CNN has been around longer than Fox, has more divisions, yet now has a lower audience count. Why? People are also fed up with the distortions and lies spread by the left. There’s a reason Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, Medved, Dr. Laura, and many other right-wingers are so popular: they’re entertaining. Can’t say the same about anyone on Air America. Geez, I’m glad I’m a libertarian!
Wow. It seems that the term ‘racist’ is being bantered around as much as ‘family values’ — both are losing any meaning or power. Calling someone racist because they don’t agree with your opinion simply takes away the meaning of the word when applied to those who truly are racist. But then the human race will just reinvent their language so there will be no loss of words for knee-jerk, reactionary, name-calling instead of having a calm, thoughtful debate.
*sigh*
“They” say that voting for Kucinich is throwing your vote away, but the primaries are where we get to express our opinions to the greatest degree. Sure, Hillary or Obama may end up with the Democratic nomination, but if a large enough percentage of votes go to Kucinich they won’t be able to dismiss out of hand many of his sentiments. In 2004 I remember thinking that Edwards would’ve made a wonderful presidential candidate, and in fact during the debates looked and acted more presidential than any of the other jokers (including Kerry). Now, not so much. I don’t know what happened to him during the intervening years, but he’s just not rocking my world any more.
My 2-cents…
It’s now or never folks. We can have a war with Iran, martial law and the cancellation of the 2008 elections or we can have Dennis. Everyone needs to work on House Res. 333, the Cheney impeachment bill. That is the one way to stop the nightmare scenario described above.
The world cannot tolerate another four to eight years of another brainwashed warmonger running this country. If all the people who say “I really like Dennis Kucinich BUT I don’t think he’s electable” would not only vote for him but help out his campaign, he would suddenly be in the top tier.
Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, Medved and Dr. Laura are entertaining???? Really??? We as a society have fallen a LONG LONG way if we find such truly inflammatory, inaccurate HATE speech entertaining. Truly a sad commentary on Americans.
Yes — they’re entertaining as long as you don’t take them too seriously. Do you really think they believe everything they say? No way. They say things to spark conversation, to draw out the wackos, racists, homophobes, commies etc. And they’re very, very good at it. There are many saner, more educated and reasonable conservative talk show hosts, but they have no where near the audience. Dennis Prager, Glen Beck, Lou Dobbs anyone? The liberals take themselves too seriously and are just as boring. DId you ever hear Al Franken? What a snooze!
Hate speech? Don’t be too quick to judge. Why is it that when any conservative says something that a liberal doesn’t like it’s immediately labeled racist or hate speech? Too think of skin, I think.
So, Marco, do you then believe it is not a form of hate speech to call a woman a slut, or to call a man (gay or straight) a fag? Do you find that to be entertaining? Do you think it is okay for a talk show host (liberal or conservative) to refer to hurricane victims as “scumbags”? How about a talk show host stating that they would like to kill a filmmaker? Is that okay? Is it great entertainment for you? Because these are all things that your “saner, more educated and reasonable conservative talk show host” Glenn Beck has said.
Dennis Prager’s comments regarding Ellison’s use of a Koran rather than a Bible surely didn’t promote intolerance for the Islamic faith. No, it didn’t do that because the people listening would certainly understand that he’s just making wild comments to “entertain” an audience. Right? Oh wait, the people who listen to these types of rantings are (in Marco’s own words) “the wackos, racists, homophobes and commies” of society. So lets just add some gasoline to the fire of their hatred. Let’s tell them that the forefathers of our constitution were just kind of “kidding around” when they put in the lines about separating church and state. Because, of course, every GOOD American follows the Bible to the letter. That’s why we have such “high moral values” being illustrated by all of our political leaders.
America was built upon the concept of diversity — we are, afterall, the “melting pot” nation. The diatribe that the majority of conservative talk show hosts spew is nothing more than prejudicial hate mongering. It is pandering to the religious right and it is harmful to society and to the United States of America as a whole.
Golly, I wish I could get crazies to fill up my comments columns!
Point #1- I don’t vote for someone based on their “electability”. I vote for someone because they most nearly represent my values and beliefs.
Point #2- Cheney sold his soul to the devil a long time ago, and he’s sold us down the river, too. Dumbya is just too stupid to know what the heck is going on, and he’s listening to his prognosticators and christian psychics tell him what to do. And they all want the end of the world to come soon so they can all get a pat on the head from Jesus.
Point #3- Awesome post on Kucinich. I’m going to watch him, and if he measures up to what you say about him, I’ll post about him too.
Um, it’s too soon to pick a candidate.
~ducks back under desk~
First, it’s time to stop falling into the trap of letting those (usually the media) tell us who is unelectable. We saw how Howard Dean became unelectable as soon as the “scream” was on the news ad nauseum. From the list of issues, I have to say that I support most of them, and probably more so than the other candidates. I saw him on one of the Sunday talk shows, and I think he handled himself well for the most part. But I was disappointed with his answer on how to handle Iraq and terrorism. I would have been nice if diplomacy would solve all problems, but it doesn’t. And Kucinich did not even attempt to explain what he would do if diplomacy doesn’t work. But I will continue to listen to him and the other candidates and see what they say.
What made Howard Dean “unelectable” happened before the infamous “scream”. On one of the Sunday talk shows (I can’t remember which one now… I’ve been racking my brain on it all afternoon) PRIOR to the scream, Dean was asked how he felt about the media monopolies that are so prevalent now. He stated that he would like to break them up. That began the downfall of Dean’s campaign which spiralled out of control after the scream. The media made and broke the Dean campaign, and they can do it again with any of the Presidential hopefuls now.
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Thanks Scott. I agree with you. I am always amazed at the cynicism lined up against Kucinich by people who start off with “Well, he’s right on the issues…” and end up with “but he can’t get elected.” Those who vote in the primaries based on “electibility,” “stature” or “charisima” are really undermining our democracy because they are lying about their issues. If candidates are elected for any reason than the issues they espouse, then the people havn’t gotten the candidate who represents them on the issues. The voters have cheated not only themselves but everyone else. That defeats the whole purpose of democratic elections. The problem is we don’t vote for issues but personalities and the personalities are so phony because they are calculating what will get them elected in the game of appearances. Kucinich and Gravel are the only candidates who are speaking their minds based on what they truly believe. I prefer Kucinich’s enlightened awareness of the unity of humankind to Gravel’s libertarianism, but at least Gravel is honest, which the media darlings Obama, Clinton, and Edwards are not.
Based on the issues, Kucinich is the “gay” candidate, the “black” candidate, the “green” candidate and the “feminist” candidate. Yet the cynical media and fearful Democrats don’t give him a fair hearing, because in fact all those positions are threatening to the current two-party dictatorship in which the corporate plutocrats in control of both the Republicans and Democrats have joined forces to keep control of the political system every bit as rigorously as the communists control their one-party dictatorship in China.
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What about a queer for president? Anybody want to run? You go girl!